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  The Flanagan farm is plot 15

Valuation Lists

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The Flanagan farm, Greenhills road, Kilnamanagh, Co.Dublin

The old Flanagan family farm, on the Greenhills Road (or Green Hills), in Kilnamanagh townland, in Tallaght parish, SW Co.Dublin.



The Flanagan farm at Green Hills, Kilnamanagh, was home of Edward Flanagan, possibly as early as 1777. (Certainly he lived in the area at that time.)
[Deed, 1803] is a new lease by Edward Flanagan of the property he already occupies at Green Hills.

His son William Flanagan inherited the farm.
[Deed, 1825], is about the family property in Kilnamanagh and refers to [Deed, 1803]. It says the family property in Kilnamanagh is bounded on S and W by property of Patrick Reynolds. It is bounded on N and E by property of "Michael Flanagan".
William Flanagan is listed here with a farm of 21 acres in [Tithe Survey, 1826].
He is listed here with a farm of 15 acres (with a modest house) in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] and later.
The plot is always listed as 15 acres in size in the Valuation Lists, 1855 to 1952.
William Flanagan died 1874.

His son William Flanagan apparently inherited the Greenhills farm. He died 1886.
Alderman Michael Flanagan inherited the Greenhills farm.
Alderman Michael Flanagan still held it at his death in 1931. Valuation Lists show it as still 15 acres.
The house is listed as in ruins in 1939.
Kavanagh took over the farm from the Flanagan family in 1940.

The old maps clearly show that the Flanagan house was at the roadside.
The farm stretched behind it, down in a valley, down the slope off the E side of the Greenhills Road.
The Flanagan house was modest, much smaller than its two neighbours to the N and S.
The house was "beautifully thatched" [Frank Flanagan's memoirs].
The house is now gone. No trace of it.




 

"William Flanigan" listed at "Killamana" (Kilnamanagh) in [Tithe Survey, 1826], holding 21 acres of "Meadow, Pasture and Tillage".
The holding is 21 English acres or 13 Irish acres ("Plantation Measure").
In Kilnamanagh he is the only Flanagan listed.



The Flanagan farm (Plot 15 in the numbering below) highlighted on 1829 to 1842 map.
See unhighlighted.


  

Proof that the Flanagan farm is plot 15

The plot numbering in Kilnamanagh is consistent from [Griffiths Valuation] through decades of Valuation Lists for Tallaght in [VO]. Everything matches. The plot numbers on the map match plot sizes in the text. All other records (such as newspapers) agree with both text and map. There is no doubt. In summary:

Therefore the Flanagan house was at the roadside. There was no house downhill in the Flanagan farm.

  

Was there a house downhill?

However, there is a mystery in that various family members thought the Flanagan house was downhill: But there is a further mystery: One possible solution: Another answer:


 

"William Flanagan" is listed at Kilnamanagh in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] as occupying 15 acres (with a modest house), leasing from "Reps. of H. Hudson, Esq." (i.e. the heirs of Hartley Hodson who died 1839).
Shows the Flanagan house at plot 15 as much smaller (buildings value £4) than its two neighbours at plots 14 and 16 (£9 and £19).



"William Flanagan" is listed at Kilnamanagh in [Griffiths Valuation, 1850] as occupying 15 acres (with a modest house), leasing from "Reps. H. Hudson, Esq.".
Shows the Flanagan house as much smaller (buildings value £4) than its two neighbours (£8 and £17).



[VO] Griffiths Valuation maps, Dublin county, map 22.
See full size.
Plot numbers exactly match [Griffiths Valuation, 1850]. Can't see any mis-match.
William Flanagan is listed in [Griffiths Valuation, 1850] as occupying 15 acres (with a modest house) at plot 15.



The Flanagan farm highlighted on 1887 to 1913 map.
See unhighlighted.
The Dunne house (Plot 14) is now called "Constantine House".


 

Proof that Constantine House was the Dunne house (plot 14).
Above is from Freemans Journal, April 24, 1886.
At Laurence Dunne's funeral were his neighbours Michael Flanagan, TC and Michael Flanagan, junior and Robert Stubbs, PLG and Robert Stubbs, junior.
"W. Flannagan, TC" may be William Flanagan (PLG, not a TC) or may be a Dublin Corporation councillor called William Fanagan, TC.



Plots 14A, 14B, 15 and 16 on map in [VO] of unclear date.
See full size.



Close-up of Flanagan farm.
Similar map to above, of uncertain date. See full size.



Another map in [VO] of unclear date.
Showing "Constantine House".
See full size.



The area on 1935-38 map.
Note there is no house downhill except Constantine House.
[Watchorn, 1985, p.164] has a map of c.1948 showing "Constantine House".



Valuation Lists


Plot number Occupier Lessor Description Land area Land value Buildings value Total value Notes

The columns in the Valuation Lists entries below.


  
Plots 14 (Dunne), 15 (Flanagan) and 16 (Airmount).
Valuation Lists for Tallaght in [VO]. 1855 to 1860 approx.
See full size LHS and RHS.
Shows the Flanagan house as much smaller (buildings value £3) than its two neighbours (£6 and £12).
Listed as William Flanagan.
The Dunne house in ruins at plot 14 is only a small house, judging by its buildings value (£1). There is a much bigger Dunne house (£6) at plot 14.


  

  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1860 to 1870 approx.
See full size top LHS and RHS.
See full size bottom LHS and RHS.
Shows the Flanagan house as much smaller (lower in value) than its two neighbours.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1863 to 1870 approx.
See full size LHS and RHS.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1870 to 1880.
See full size LHS and RHS.



Plot number Occupier Lessor Description Land area Land value Buildings value Total value Notes

New columns for the Valuation Lists entries below.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1880 to 1884 approx.
See full size LHS and RHS.
Still under the name "William Flanagan". William Flanagan senior died 1874 (his wife died before him). This could be William Flanagan junior.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1884 to 1889 approx.
See full size LHS and RHS.
Note William Flanagan junior died 1886.
Plot 15 is listed first under the name "Mrs. Flanagan" (must be William Flanagan junior's widow). Then listed as representatives of the estate of William Flanagan.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1889 to 1896 approx.
See full size LHS and RHS.
Now listed as Michael Flanagan.


  

  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1896 to 1906.
See full size top LHS and RHS.
See full size bottom LHS and RHS.
Can't identify the Flanagan house in Kilnamanagh in 1901 census. Likely no one (or no Flanagan) living there. Just a business.


  

  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1906 to 1919.
See full size top LHS and RHS.
See full size bottom LHS and RHS.
Says new Dunne house built in 1907.
Says Airmount now in ruins.
Can't identify the Flanagan house in Kilnamanagh in 1911 census. Likely no one (or no Flanagan) living there. Just a business.


  

  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1919 to 1937.
See full size top LHS and RHS.
See full size bottom LHS and RHS.


  
Valuation Lists for Tallaght. 1937 to 1952.
See full size LHS and RHS.
Michael Flanagan died 1931.
The Flanagan house is listed as in ruins in 1939.
Kavanagh took over the farm from the heirs of Michael Flanagan in 1940.



The site today



The same plot superimposed on the modern map.
The Flanagan house at the road is now demolished. No trace of it.
Constantine House is gone also.
Plot 15 is entirely part of the green area S of the housing estate, part of Tymon Park.



On a satellite view you can still make out the shape of the old farm through the different vegetation.
From Google Maps.



View of the Flanagan farm (on RHS of fence). From up near the road looking downhill.
Photo 2012. See full size.
See view further to the right and further to the right and further to the right.
See street view down at the corner.



View inside the park, looking uphill towards the road.
The narrow neck is the opening of the farm, where the house was.
Photo 2012. See full size and other shot.



N entrance to the park.
This is a modern wall. All of the wall / fence today is new.
Photo 2012. See full size.
See similar wall at SE entrance to the park. And wider shot.



Street view of the Flanagan farm, now part of Tymon Park.
View from SE, looking back up towards where the house would have been. Note the whole farm is down a slope.
Click to rotate. From Google Street View.
See view inside gate looking uphill to road.






Other properties in Greenhills, Tallaght




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