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Garret Mor Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare


Garret Mor Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare (see here and here and here),
The Great Earl, born 1456.

He mar 1stly, c.1471, to Alison FitzEustace.
He succ as Earl 1478.
There was almost an effective Irish independence in 1477-95.
He was Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland 1483-84.
He was a Yorkist.
He supported the claim of Lambert Simnel to be Edward of Warwick in the remnant Yorkist opposition to Henry VII. Simnel was crowned as "Edward VI" at Christ Church, Dublin, 1487.
There was a famous Butler - FitzGerald dispute in 1492, which ended with the "Door of Reconciliation" at St.Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin.
8th Earl was arrested in 1495 and imprisoned in the Tower of London.
Alison died 22 Nov 1495 [NOT 1480].
She was bur New Abbey, Kilcullen, Co.Kildare.
She is said to have died of grief after his arrest. She did not live to see him come into favour again.

He was freed 1496.
Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland 1496-(think 1513).
He fought with 3rd Baron Howth against the Irish at the Battle of Knockdoe, Co.Galway, 1504.
K.G. 1505 (first Irish one).
In 1510 [Milne, 2000] he built a chapel, St.Mary's Chapel (now gone) in the NE end of Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin. This was on the N side of the high altar, in the Choir at the E end. See map on p.110 of [Milne, 2000]. There was in fact an older St.Mary's Chapel in the cathedral, so this one was also called the Earl of Kildare's chapel.
He died Kildare town, 3 September 1513, age 57 yrs.
He was bur 16 Oct 1513 in the chapel he had built, St.Mary's Chapel, Christ Church cathedral, Dublin.
Both monument and chapel have since vanished.
He had issue by 1st wife:


  1. Margaret Fitzgerald (see here),
    mar 1485 [father only age 29, she must have been only age c.14]
    to Piers Butler, 8th Earl of Ormonde [born c.1467] and had issue.


  2. Elizabeth Fitzgerald,
    DELVIN in [Complete Peerage] has her as Isabel, dau of Thomas Fitzgerald, son of Gerald, Earl of Kildare,
    but WESTMEATH in [Burkes Peerage] has her as dau of 8th Earl (for which the dates fit better),
    mar Richard Nugent, 3rd Baron Delvin and had issue.


  3. Garret Og Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare, born 1487.






Discussion of the lost tomb of Garret Mor Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare (died 1513).
The tomb was in St.Mary's Chapel, Christ Church cathedral, Dublin.
From Page 22 of [Finlayson, 1878].
Contrary to what is said here, [Milne, 2000, p.105] says the dates of destruction of the monument and the chapel are uncertain.



Plaque at burial site of Alison FitzEustace at New Abbey, Kilcullen, Co.Kildare.
Photo 2015. See full size.


  

The "Door of Reconciliation"

Butler - FitzGerald dispute of 1492:
Despite the fact that his daughter was married to one of them (the future 8th Earl of Ormonde) there was intense Fitzgerald rivalry with the Butlers. This came to a head in 1492 with a skirmish in Dublin between the 8th Earl of Kildare and James Butler, "Black James". Black James took refuge in the (now vanished) chapter house of St.Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin. The standoff ended when Kildare cut a hole in the door and stuck his hand through to offer a truce.

This is said to be the origin of the expression "to chance your arm", but there is no evidence for this.




The famous "Door of Reconciliation" preserved in St. Patrick's Cathedral, through which the 8th Earl stuck his arm in 1492.
Photo 2013. See larger and full size.
See rear side.



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