LDS reference to Letitia Blennerhassett in 1806
An entry in the
has a tantalising reference to
wife of Richard Ponsonby
The LDS entry says
married Richard Ponsonby in 1806 at
"Crotto Listowel, Kerry, Ireland"
This is not true (they married in 1799)
but did something happen in 1806 at Crotto?
I had a theory that yes - they separated in about 1806.
I would like to find the source for this LDS entry.
LDS IGI online
The IGI record is online at familysearch.org at:
Submitted 2012 by
Email from the LDS says:
"I have had it confirmed that (submitter "unknown38379")
refers to data that was entered from a compiled list of entries that had no sources."
LDS Family Tree
This was later merged in 2016 into a familysearch.org Family Tree by
Click on "Open Details" to see who added info (and possibly contact them).
says "unknown4470317" is not a real ID:
"The unknown ID, 4470317, identifies a generic contributor applied to thousands of temple records during a time when the name of the contributor was not preserved."
Source: Official temple record
The source of the above is the Official temple record,
a section compiled in New Zealand, 1992, which I ordered. Here it is:
Official temple record for deceased individuals [1991-1997]
This is from
Film no. 1760951
Under Temple - New Zealand.
See full size
Source: Recorder's Certificate
The source of the above is Recorder's Certificate 00015-0066 (1992).
Sealing date: 5 Sept 1992.
was president of the Hamilton New Zealand Temple from 1990 to 1992.
Douglas J. Martin
was president of the Hamilton New Zealand Temple from 1992 to 1995.
I tried to order the Recorder's Certificate.
However the LDS replied:
"After careful research it has been determined that the information you requested was, in fact, submitted by the Patron to the recorder who in turned recorded this information. There are no recorder certificates. None of the records on this film are available. There is no source other than what you already have."
Even if no Recorder's Certificate survives,
someone in the LDS
may recall what the source was.
The source may still exist
The source existed in New Zealand in 1992.
Even if the LDS people in 1992 have since died,
the source may still exist.
The source is probably not the memorial of the 1806 deed
Could the source be the
memorial of the 1806 deed
It seems unlikely, since the LDS includes the location "Crotto",
which is not mentioned in the 1806 memorial.
The source is probably just a mis-reading of Burke's
The source is probably just a mis-reading of
Burke's Irish Family Records, 1976
inserting the date of Letitia's sister's
Letitia in [Burkes Irish, 1976]
Note her sister's 1806 marriage is right next door.
It seems that a mis-reading attached the date 1806 to Letitia rather than her sister.
"Crotto, nr Listowel, co Kerry",
which got changed to:
"Crotto Listowel, Kerry, Ireland".