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Jeffrey Manning,
bapt 17 March 1639 (new style year), Hawstead, Suffolk.
He went to America.
He mar in Massachusetts to Hepzibah Andrews.
They had issue:

Mary Manning.
She mar 1677, Piscataway, New Jersey, to Samuel Hull.
They had issue:

Mary Hull,
born 1681.
She mar Jacob Piatt [born 1678] and had issue.

From p.805 of The Manning families of New England (1902).
Shows Jeffrey Manning marrying "Hepsibah Andrews".
Does not show dau Mary.

From p.1034 of Genealogical and memorial history of the state of New Jersey (1910, vol.3).
Shows Jeffrey Manning marrying "Hepzibah Andrews".
Does not show dau Mary.

From p.257 of The Hull family in America (1913).
Shows Samuel Hull marrying 1677 to Mary Manning, dau of Jeffrey Manning and "Hephsibah Andrews".
Note there is a 15 year gap in the children's births, which indicates Mary died soon after 1687 and the later children are of Samuel's 2nd marriage.

Doty-Doten family in America (1897, p.283) says Samuel Hull married Mary Manning, dau of "Joeffrey Manning" and "Hepsaba".
The transcribed entry (and here) of the 1677 marriage of Samuel Hull and Mary Manning lists her parents as "Jeffry" or "Jeff" Manning and "Hep". This is from "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" (thus titled, even though it includes pre-1682 marriages).

Attempted Royal Descents of Eibhlín Sigerson Piatt (disproved)

Eibhlín Humphreys (nee Sigerson Piatt) was my grand-aunt. I knew her, and talked to her about the family tree before she died in 1986.

Many years later, I discovered her ancestry went back to 17th century America. In 2010, I realised from [Roberts, 2008] that this could lead to a Royal Descent. Unfortunately, two attempts to construct a Royal Descent for her have failed.

Descent from Henry III (disproved)

In 2010, I discovered an apparent descent of Eibhlín from Henry III.
See attempted descent through Mary Gye and then Prowse and Baynton and Echyngham and Fitzalan. See [Roberts, 2008, p.377].
Baynton line is disputed. Gye line is wrong:
- In 2014, I discovered that the connection of Baynton to Fitzalan is disputed. See discussion "Echingham/Baynton Line not supported" on soc.genealogy.medieval. See counter-arguments at Wikitree.
- This later turned out to be academic since the connection to Mary Gye is wrong. See below.

Descent from Henry II (disproved)

In 2014, abandoning the above descent, I discovered another apparent Royal Descent of Eibhlín, from Henry II.
See attempted descent through Mary Gye and then Dowrish and Farringdon and Stukeley.
Gye line is wrong:
- In 2020 I was informed that this descent and the previous descent fail because Jeffrey Manning is not grandson of Mary Gye. (Hat tip: Paulo Ricardo Canedo.)
- See discussion on Wikitree. Jeffrey Manning is not the son of John Manning and Abigail Maverick, as shown on trees such as here.

Patricia Ann Engel genealogy site
- Jeffrey Manning