Genealogy research by Mark Humphrys,
Fred Winter, senior,
Interned in Germany in WWI:
He was riding (with great success) for German National Stud when WW1 broke out, 1 Aug 1914, only age 19. The officials sportingly gave him 24 hours to get out of the country, but he didn't make it.
He spent 4 years in Ruhleben POW camp in Spandau, suburb of Berlin.
It was a remarkably civilized camp. His weight actually went up with inactivity and the good food.
After release 1918, he couldn't get re-established in racing in England.
He went to Ireland, where he met his wife.
He mar pre-1922 to Nancy Flanagan [born 29 August 1898].
He rode a few seasons over hurdles, got weight down enough for flat.
He returned to England. They said he was never quite the same again (though he did win the Irish Derby).
Around 1926 he was jockey at Weyhill, Hampshire.
He lived in a bungalow called "Cherimoya" (after his one classic winner), Andover, Hampshire.
He won Irish Oaks on "Haintonette" in 1928.
He moved briefly to Newmarket temp 1929.
He rode "Kopi" in 1929 Epsom Derby. He suffered a fall that was caught on video.
Soon after he won 1929 Irish Derby on "Kopi".
He retired as jockey 1929.
moved to Epsom
to train 1929.
Had Bredenbury stables, near railway station on Epsom Downs, there temp 1931.
Then he was trainer in Treadwell House.
Moved to Southfleet, Kent, 1941, had stables, was trainer there with his son John.
Moved to Newmarket, winter 1963-64.
He died July 1965, age 70 yrs.
Nancy died Newmarket, 1987, age 89 yrs.
Fred and Nancy had issue:
Fred Winter, senior, on "Kopi", after winning the Irish Derby, 1929.
The man leading the horse is the millionaire owner Solomon ("Solly") Joel.
Picture courtesy of Michael Peevey.
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