Genealogy research by Mark Humphrys.
Richard Winter,
Interned in Germany in WWI:
He was riding (with great success) for German National Stud when WW1 broke out, 1 Aug 1914, only age 19 or 20. The officials sportingly gave him 24 hours to get out of the country, but he didn't make it. He spent 4 years in Ruhleben POW camp in Spandau, suburb of Berlin. It was a remarkably civilized camp. His weight actually went up with inactivity and the good food. |
After release 1918, he couldn't get re-established in racing in England.
He
went to Ireland, where he met his wife.
He mar 19 Nov 1921 to
Nancy Flanagan [born 29 August 1898].
He is listed as "jockey" at mar.
He
rode a few seasons over hurdles,
got weight down enough for flat.
He
returned to England.
They said he was never quite the same again
(though he did win the Irish Derby).
They lived in England.
Children brought up Catholic by their mother.
Though the Flanagans in Ireland were Irish nationalist,
Nancy was not.
After marriage she did not visit Ireland again until 1974.
Michael Peevey
recalls:
"My Gran (Nancy) was 100% pro
British - in fact, in later life (approx. 70 yrs old) she saw a
program about the history of Ireland and this was the first time that
she had been made aware of the Famine in Ireland.
Incredible huh?"
(Especially given that her grandfather
witnessed the Famine.)
Around 1926, Fred was a jockey at Weyhill, Hampshire.
They lived in a bungalow called "Cherimoya" (after his one classic winner),
Andover, Hampshire.
He
won Irish Oaks
on "Haintonette" in 1928.
They
moved briefly to Newmarket temp 1929.
He
rode "Kopi" in 1929
Epsom Derby.
He
suffered a fall that was
caught on video.
Soon after he
won 1929 Irish Derby
on "Kopi".
He
retired as jockey 1929.
He
moved to Epsom
to train 1929.
Had Bredenbury stables, near railway station
on Epsom Downs, there temp 1931.
Then he was trainer in Treadwell House.
"Anne Winter" wit the mar of her niece Doris Wing in Epsom in 1941.
Fred and family moved to Southfleet, Kent,
1941.
Had stables.
Fred was trainer there with his son John.
Moved to Newmarket, winter 1963-64.
He died July 1965, age 70 or 71 yrs.
In later years Nancy lived in the cottage adjoining her son John's stables,
"Highfield" in Newmarket.
Nancy died Newmarket, 1987, age 89 yrs.
Fred and Nancy had issue:
Fred Winter senior and junior.
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Nancy Flanagan and her 4 children, 1980.
(Left to Right): Fred Winter,
Patricia Winter,
Nancy Flanagan,
Sheila Winter,
John Winter.
Picture courtesy of Elizabeth Innes.
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See other version.
Cherimoya winning the 1911 Epsom Oaks.
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From here.
Video of the
Epsom Derby, 5 June 1929.
Also here.
Fred Winter senior rode "Kopi" in it,
but suffered a fall.
"Kopi" falls at 3:49.
Fred Winter, senior, on "Kopi", after winning the Irish Derby, 1929.
The man leading the horse is the millionaire owner
Solomon ("Solly") Joel.
Picture courtesy of Michael Peevey.
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and original.
Video of Fred Winter, senior, winning the Irish Derby, 1929.
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