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Patrick Collins

Gravestone erected by Patrick Collins in Glasnevin in memory of his mother who died 1856.
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Patrick Collins.
He was apparently bapt 3 May 1812.
Farmer and market gardener, of Crumlin, Co.Dublin.

Mary apparently died 1835-1836, leaving him with small children.
Patrick had issue by 1st wife:

1. Thomas Collins,
   bapt 17 Apr 1832, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Hugh Smyth and Rose Collins.
   See bapt entry from here.
   His father died 1880.
   He registered his half-brother Christopher's death 1884.
   His residence in 1884 is given as "Cross-roads, Crumlin" (this would match where we think the Collins house was).
   Listed as "farmer" in death cert and burial entry.
   Death cert says he is a widower. Though burial entry thought he was unmarried.
   He died at "Crumlin Cross Roads", 27 Oct 1889, age 57 yrs.
   See death cert from here.
   He was bur 29 Oct 1889 in Glasnevin Cemetery with father. See burial entry. Gives address as "Crumlin".

   
   

2. Andrew Collins,
   bapt 4 Feb 1834, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Mick Jordan and Rose Collins.
   Incorrectly indexed as 1833. See bapt entry from here.
   He is farmer, living Crumlin at mar 1868.
   
   He mar 5 Aug 1868 to Mary Smyth.
   Mar cert lists her as spinster, dau of John Donagh, farmer. Surname is unexplained. Maybe she is his step-dau. She is living Crumlin at mar.
   They mar at Rathfarnham RC church. See mar cert from here. Father is Patrick Collins, farmer.
   Mar wit by James Toole and Mary Collins (probably his sister, not yet married).
   
   He would be "Andrew Collins", The Glens, Crumlin, who was informant for the burial of his step-mother Mary Walsh in 1877.

   
   

3. Maurice Collins,
   bapt 14 Aug 1835, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Maurice Smyth and Eliza Smyth.
   See bapt entry from here.
   We think this is probably our family because of Smith.

Patrick Collins is listed at Crumlin in [Pettigrew & Oulton] 1836 and 1837.
Patrick Collins is listed at Crumlin Road, Crumlin, in [Pettigrew & Oulton] 1838 to 1843.
Patrick Collins is listed in Crumlin townland, Crumlin par, in [Griffiths Valuation, 1847] and [Griffiths Valuation, 1850]. He is occupying one plot with a house and rents a number of other plots without houses.
Patrick Collins, farmer and market gardener, is listed at Crumlin Road, Crumlin, in [Thom's] 1850 to 1877.
"Patrick Collins of Crumlin" erected gravestone in Glasnevin in memory of his mother who died 1856.
Listed as "gardener", of Crumlin, Co.Dublin, at his dau's marriage 1866 [GROI].

Mary dies, 1877:
She died at Crumlin, 20 Feb 1877, age 63 yrs [death cert] or 64 yrs [burial record].
See death cert from here. She is wife of a farmer.
She was bur 22 Feb 1877 in Glasnevin Cemetery. See burial entry. Gives address as "Crumlin Cross". She is "farmer's wife".
Patrick is listed as "gentleman" at son's mar in May 1877.
Map of Shaw estate as at 1879 shows the occupant as "Patrick Collins".

Patrick dies, 1880:
He died at his house, Crumlin, 9 Dec 1880.
Death and burial give age 77 yrs, but if we are correct about his origin he was age 68 yrs.
See death cert from here. He is "farmer".
See notice in Freemans Journal, Fri 10 Dec 1880.
He was bur Sun 12 Dec 1880 in Glasnevin Cemetery. See burial entry. Gives address as "Crumlin Cross". He is "farmer".
See probate of will. From here. Granted 1 Mar 1881.
Patrick had issue by 2nd wife:

1. Mary Collins,
   bapt 9 Apr 1837, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Michael Collins and "Margret Walsh".
   See bapt entry from here. See transcript.
   Mary Collins of Crumlin wit mar of Anne in 1866.
   "Marie Collins" sp the bapt of Lizzie Flanagan in July 1868.
   "Mary Collins" wit the mar of (probably her brother) Andrew Collins in Aug 1868.
   Living Crumlin at mar.
   She mar 10 Jan 1876 [her age 38] to William Carthy.
   They mar at Crumlin RC church. See mar cert from here.

   
   

2. Elenor Collins,
   bapt 16 Sept 1838, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Peter Keogh and Margret Collins.
   See bapt entry from here. See transcript.

   
   

3. Catherine Collins,
   bapt 29 Nov 1840, Rathfarnham RC church, sp John Collins and Mary(?) Murphy.
   See bapt entry from here. See transcript.

   
   

4. Anne Collins,
   born Crumlin, Co.Dublin,
   bapt 27 Nov 1842, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Christopher Walsh and Mary Doyle.
   See bapt entry from here. See transcript.
   NOT Jane.

   
   

5. Pat Collins,
   bapt 25 Nov 1843, Rathfarnham RC church, sp William Smith and Rose Kelly.
   See bapt entry from here.
   We think this may be our family because it matches Smith.

   
   

6. Christopher Collins,
   born 1846 [by age given at death].
   Marriage notice seems to call him the 5th son of Patrick.
   Christopher was a Walsh name.

   
   

7. Margaret Collins,
   bapt 7 Mar 1846, Rathfarnham RC church, sp James Collins and Mary Walsh.
   See bapt entry from here.
   We think this may be our family because of Walsh.

   
   

8. Saragh Collins,
   bapt 27 Oct 1850, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Laurence Carney and Saragh Collins.
   See bapt entry from here. See transcript.

Patrick Collins listed at Crumlin in [Pettigrew & Oulton, 1836, p.300].

Patrick Collins listed on Crumlin Road, Crumlin, in [Thom's, 1850, p.840].

The small building at the apex in this 1952 photo, with new houses either side, is possibly the last remnant of the Collins farm in Crumlin before it was entirely removed.
See full size.

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Children

Baptism of Thomas Collins, 17 Apr 1832, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Andrew Collins, 4 Feb 1834, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Maurice Collins, 14 Aug 1835, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Mary Collins, 9 Apr 1837, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Elenor Collins, 16 Sept 1838, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Catherine Collins, 29 Nov 1840, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Anne Collins, 27 Nov 1842, Rathfarnham RC church.
It is written as an extra note at the start of 1843.
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Baptism of Pat Collins, 25 Nov 1843, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Margaret Collins, 7 Mar 1846, Rathfarnham RC church.

Baptism of Saragh Collins, 27 Oct 1850, Rathfarnham RC church.

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Other children of a Patrick Collins

Our Patrick Collins had two wives called Mary.
Rathfarnham was a huge parish and we can find many entries for children of a Patrick Collins and an unidentified Mary (no surname).
Identifying which ones are our Patrick is difficult.
For some, there is evidence/proof in favour of this being our family. We include these above and explain the reasoning.
For others, there is no good evidence in favour, or there is evidence/proof against. We list these here.

Children of a Patrick Collins and an unidentified Mary:

• Bridget Collins,
  bapt 13 July 1837, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Pat Toole and Margaret Doyle. See entry.
  At first this looks like our family because it matches the grandmother and Toole.
  But this cannot be our family since it conflicts with the baptism of Mary in Apr 1837, whose mother is definitely Mary Walsh.

  
  

• William Collins,
  bapt 29 May 1839, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Micheal Kelly and Catherine Keogh. See entry.
  A bit too close to the bapt of Elenor Collins in Sept 1838. Probably not our family.

  
  

• Ann Collins,
  bapt 24 Nov 1840, Rathfarnham RC church, sp James Toole and Elizabeth Kelly. See entry.
  Our family had Catherine bapt 29 Nov 1840. So this is clearly a different family.

  
  

• Margaret Collins,
  bapt 28 July 1844, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Catherine Doyle and John Doyle. See entry.
  A bit too close to the bapt of Pat Collins in Nov 1843. He is probably our family so Margaret is probably not our family.
  Note she also must be different family to Stephen.

  
  

• Stephen Collins,
  bapt 20 Dec 1844, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Charles Toole and Julia Toole. See entry.
  This may be our family because of the match to Toole. But the evidence is weak.
  Must be different family to Margaret.

  
  

• Mary Rosanna Collins,
  bapt 22 Jan 1847, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Laurence (poss. Kearney) and Teresa Blake. See entry.

  
  

• Pat Collins,
  bapt 18 Dec 1848, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Morris Collins and Bridget Collins. See entry.
  Could be our family because of Bridget.

  
  

There is also one that was incorrectly indexed as child of Patrick and Mary Collins:

• Maurice Collins,
  bapt 28 July 1833, Rathfarnham RC church, sp Michael Walsh and Mary Kilbride.
  The original entry shows his parents are actually Patrick and Margaret Collins.

  
  

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Sources yet to be consulted

• Patrick Collins' will once existed. It was proved in 1881. Does it survive?

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• "P. Cullen" is listed as "nephew" of Anne Collins at her funeral 1910.