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Forrest of Morborne, Huntingdonshire

Spelling varies. Seems to be mainly "Forest" in earlier records and "Forrest" in later records.
  

Miles Forest,
or Forrest.
He mar Joan ----.
He was keeper of the wardrobe at Barnard Castle, Durham. See p.164 of [Gairdner, 1879].
This was a castle held by Richard III after 1477. It is unclear if Forest held this post before being assigned to guard the princes, or given the post after their murder as a reward. See [Thornton, 2020, note 36].

Alleged to be one of the killers of the "Princes in the Tower" in 1483:
Forest is said to have been one of the killers of the "Princes in the Tower" (the deposed child King Edward V and his brother Richard, Duke of York). The Princes are thought to have been murdered in the Tower of London in 1483 on the orders of their uncle Richard III.
The claim that Miles Forest was one of the killers was made early, in More's History of King Richard III (c.1513) by Sir Thomas More.
More says that Miles Forest was one of the four jailers of the princes at the Tower of London. (These would not be professional jailers, but men loyal to Richard III brought in to guard the princes.) Forest is described in one edition of More as "a noted ruffian" and in another edition as a man already "fleshed in murder" (experienced in murder). One night, the princes were smothered to death in their beds by Miles Forest and John Dighton, on the orders of Sir James Tyrrell, acting for Richard III.

Sanctuary in St.Martin's church, London:
It was said that after the murder Forest feared revenge and he sought sanctuary at the church of St. Martin's Le Grand in the City of London, which was a known sanctuary for malefactors.
More says that Forest "piecemeal rotted away" at St. Martin's. See p.85 of 1883 edn.

Forest died soon after. He died before Sept 1484.
His widow Joan received an annuity on 9 Sept 1484.
Richard III was killed at the Battle of Bosworth on 22 Aug 1485, and a new Tudor regime took power.
Forest was never arrested for his crime since he was already dead.

Traditionally, not everyone has believed Sir Thomas More's account, or the guilt of Miles Forest.
However [Thornton, 2020] shows that Sir Thomas More would have known Forest's sons, who were in Royal service, and he may have got the information about their father from them.
Sir Thomas More in fact appears in a 1528 case opposite Miles Forest the younger.
[Thornton, 2020] convincingly shows that Forest had issue:


  1. Edward Forest,
    born before 1484.
    He was a Groom of the Chamber in 1511.
    Groom of the King's Chamber in 1526.
    He received a grant of the lordship of Barnard Castle in 1526.
    He possibly died shortly before July 1546.


  2. Miles Forest,
    or Myles, born before 1485.
    He settled at Morborne, Huntingdonshire.






The widow of Miles Forest is granted an annuity on 9 Sept 1484, during the short reign of Richard III.
From p.473 of Calendar of the patent rolls 1476-1485 (1901).


  

More's History of King Richard III (c.1513)

  
 
The killing of the Princes in the Tower.
Extract from The History of King Richard III, by Sir Thomas More, c.1513.
This is from pp.44-45 of 1789 edn.


 
A somewhat different text is given on pp.83-85 of 1883 edn.
See modernised text with footnotes. From here. This gives the text as: "Then, all the others being removed from them, this Miles Forest and John Dighton about midnight, the seely" [poor, helpless] "children lying in their beds, came into the chamber and suddenly lapped" [bound] "them up among the clothes - so bewrapped them and entangled them, keeping down by force the featherbed and pillows hard unto their mouths, that within a while, smothered and stifled, their breath failing, they gave up to God their innocent souls into the joys of heaven, leaving to the tormentors their bodies dead in the bed."


  

Depictions of the "Princes in the Tower"

  

"Edward V and the Duke of York are about to be murdered in their beds by two assassins". Line engraving by Andrew Birrell after Samuel Collings, c.1790.
If we believe More, Miles Forest is one of the men here.
This image was used opposite p.44 of 1789 edn of More's history, which says Miles Forest is one of the killers.
See larger and full size. From Wellcome Collection.



"The Murder of the Sons of Edward IV".
1835 painting by Theodor Hildebrandt.
See larger. From here.
If we believe More, Miles Forest is one of the men here.



The "Princes in the Tower" depicted in an 1878 painting by John Everett Millais.
From here.


  

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