David Tuohy
David Tuohy's will was pr 1792.
Entry
from
here.
Also
here.
David Tuohy,
of Tralee.
See
wikitree.
He would be David Tuohy, gent., of Tralee whose will was pr 1792,
Diocese of Ardfert and Aghadoe.
Will would be burnt in 1922.
He is not party to dau's marriage settlement 1801. He is clearly dead.
He died before daughter's death in 1806.
He had issue:
- Elizabeth Tuohy,
Betsey.
She is of parish of Tralee at mar.
She mar 15 Jan 1801
to her 1st cousin
Rickard O'Connell
and had issue.
They mar at Tralee CoI church. (Rickard was CoI.)
See entry
from here.
See marriage settlement, 15 Jan 1801.
See their marriage discussed
in letter of 24 Jan 1801 on
pp.40-41 (letter 38) of
[Correspondence of Daniel O'Connell, vol 1].
[Correspondence of Daniel O'Connell, vol 1, p.46]
has wrong name for her father.
- "Miss Tuohy".
Tragic relationship:
After a relationship with a man, she was in deep depression late in 1806,
and she died suddenly, possibly by suicide, in November 1806.
Ellen Fitzsimon
tells the
tragic story of 1806
about "Miss Tuohy".
This story may be sanitised, and the real story may be darker.
It may involve the man being married, and her getting pregnant.
See Theory of O'Connell descent.
"Miss Tuohy" is not named by Ellen Fitzsimon or the newspaper reports of death,
but the newspapers confirm she is daughter of David Tuohy.
Death, 1806:
Miss Tuohy died suddenly on Sunday evening, 2 Nov 1806,
at
Newbridge, near Rathkeale, Co.Limerick.
Notice in Limerick Chronicle says she was on her way to Dublin.
Ellen Fitzsimon says she was going from Kerry to Dublin with
Mary and Daniel O'Connell.
See item
in Limerick Gazette or General Advertiser,
Tuesday 4 November 1806.
Kitty Tuohy
Either David or his brother
John
is father of the following
Kitty Tuohy.
It is probably David,
and
Kitty is probably "Miss Tuohy" above.
This is not quite proved though.
-
Kitty Tuohy.
1st cousin of Mary O'Connell.
Kitty is mentioned as unmarried, and being teased about romantic possibilities,
in a
letter of 2 Apr 1806
from
her cousin
Mary O'Connell.
Letter from
Mary O'Connell
to her husband
Daniel O'Connell, 2 Apr 1806.
Refers to
Kitty Tuohy, a 1st cousin of Mary
(i.e. a daughter of David or John).
Kitty is
not Mary's sister
Catherine O'Connell,
since it says
"her mother".
From p.150 (letter 165) of
[Correspondence of Daniel O'Connell, vol 1].
The tragic story of 1806 about a "Miss Tuohy".
This
is told in
p.1624,
which is a collection of
materials for a biography of Daniel O'Connell, by his daughter
Ellen Fitzsimon.
(She was eldest daughter of Mary and Daniel O'Connell, born 1805, died 1883.)
Ellen Fitzsimon says the following:
- The following events happened in the latter part of 1806.
- "Miss Tuohy" was Mary O'Connell's
"first cousin and most intimate friend, an extremely lovely and interesting young woman".
- She is a young lady
"mentioned in very affectionate terms by my father in his letter of the 13th April 1806 dated Cork".
- About a year before, she had accepted the hand of
"a young barrister of [considerable?] talent and of good expectations as to fortune, a friend of my father".
- Miss Tuohy had no money, and the barrister's friends disapproved of the match.
They worked on both of them,
and managed to break up the match.
- She was deeply hurt and
"the effort to conceal her feelings cost her her life".
She lost her appetite and "daily wasted away".
- Mary tried to help her, and took her to Kerry in the autumn of 1806.
Miss Tuohy "seemed to rally a little.
-
Daniel and Mary set off to go back to Dublin.
She went with them, but when they were half-way to Dublin,
"the poor young lady breathed her last in one of the [Inns?]
where they had stopped for the night".
Mary was disturbed for a very long time after this.
- The young man "never recovered his former spirits"
and though he became wealthy, he never married, and died still young.
Notes:
- It sounds like the girl committed suicide.
How else are we to read it?
-
Ellen would be a baby at the time, so was not a witness to these events.
As the eldest daughter, her parents may have told her about it years later.
Maybe the story was sanitised and romanticised a bit.
- Ellen does not give the girl's first name.
She says she is mentioned in a
letter from Daniel O'Connell, 13 April 1806, from Cork.
- Now Kitty Tuohy is
mentioned in a
letter of 2 Apr 1806
from Mary to Daniel in Cork.
- So most likely this is Kitty.
But we need to see the other letter to prove this.
- Ellen does not give the man's name at all (either first or surname).
See discussion of this in
Theory of O'Connell descent.
The story of Miss Tuohy.
From p.99 of
p.1624.
See
larger
and
full page.
Discovered by me in the NLI microfilm room on
Wed 12 Nov 2025.
Miss Tuohy death in newspapers
The death of Miss Tuohy on Sun 2 Nov 1806.
From the Limerick Gazette or General Advertiser,
Tuesday 4 November 1806.
This confirms she really did die suddenly.
It also shows she is the daughter of David Tuohy.
Abstract of notice in Limerick Chronicle, shortly after 2 Nov 1806.
From
p.2439
of [O'Kief, vol.8].
This says she was on her way to Dublin.
Says she died at "New Bridge" (near Rathkeale).
Newbridge and Rathkeale on p.104 of
[Taylor and Skinner, 1777].
N is to the bottom right.
Newbridge is in Ballyan townland, NW of Rathkeale.
Close to
Riddlestown
and
Alta Villa.
See modern map
and street view.
In Tralee RC parish records we can find the following David Tuohy family.
But it is not clear this is our family.
Surely a 14 year old is not being teased about getting married? And maybe having an affair and giving birth?
This family might not be relevant.
- David Tuohy,
mar Ann Hartnet [or Harnet or Harnit],
had issue:
- Honora Tuohy,
bapt 7 January 1783,
Tralee RC church,
sp Thomas Quil and Mary Touhy.
See image.
- Catherine Tuohy,
bapt 28 January 1785, Tralee RC church,
sp John Tuohy and Fany Teagan.
Must have died young.
- David Touhy,
bapt 8 January 1786, Tralee RC church,
sp Thomas Galway and Helen Toumy.
- Ellen Tuohy,
bapt 26 July 1789, Tralee RC church,
sp William Bullin and Ellen Tuohy.
See image.
- Catherine Tuohy,
twin,
bapt 12 June 1792, Tralee RC church,
sp John Tuohy and Ellen Tuohy.
- Mary Tuohy,
twin,
bapt 12 June 1792, Tralee RC church,
sp John Tuohy and Ellen Tuohy.
Baptism of the twins Catherine and Mary Tuohy,
Tralee,
12 June 1792.
References
- Deed of 15 Jan 1801.
Marriage settlement of Elizabeth Tuohy and Rickard O'Connell.
[LR]
Book 534 Page 459 Memorial 350962.
Registered 20 February 1801.
Sources yet to be consulted
-
[LR]
Book 453 Page 351 Memorial 291058. Registered 15 June 1792.
Apparently to do with David Tuohy.
Not online at LDS.
Have to see original in LR.