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Jeremiah Carmody

Sources yet to be consulted:
- Search for 1885 case in Petty Sessions at Findmypast and Ancestry.

Baptism of Thomas Carmody, Ardfert, Co.Kerry, 16 January 1860.

Jeremiah Carmody,
born (according to census) 1831 or 1841, Co.Kerry.
See entry in public tree by Kerry English.
He lived Liscahane (his father's farm), Ardfert par (between Ardfert and Tralee), Co.Kerry.

He mar 1stly, pre-1860, to Ellen Meehan [or Meehane].
They are living Liscahane at children's baptisms 1860 to 1869.
"Jeremiah Carmody" sp bapt of Honora O'Callaghan at Tralee, 1864.
Ellen died 1872.
She is NOT Ellen Carmody who dies 1872 in Co.Limerick.
Jeremiah had issue by 1st wife:

Thomas Carmody,
born 6 January 1860,
bapt 16 January 1860 [Ardfert RC par records], sp John Carmody and Ellen Carmody.
See parish records entry LHS and RHS. From here.
John Carmody,
born 4 March 1861, Co.Kerry,
bapt 6 March 1861 [Ardfert RC par records], sp John Healy and Mary Meehan.
See parish records entry LHS and RHS. From here.
Patrick Carmody,
born 4 July 1865,
bapt 5 July 1865 [Ardfert RC par records], sp Michael Meehane and Mary Meehane.
He got his father involved in a fight in 1885 on the road home to Liscahane from Tralee.
In court it was claimed that Patrick had previously been in a number of fights.
The Carmodys seriously injured one of the other men. Patrick and his father were both prosecuted for assault.
He is NOT Patrick Carmody of Tubrid, son of Jeremiah Carmody, who mar 1886 to Julia Gallivan since that Jeremiah Carmody is dead.
Joanna Carmody,
born 8 August 1869,
bapt 12 August 1869 [Ardfert RC par records], sp John Driscoll and Catherine Driscoll.
See parish records entry LHS and RHS. From here.

Jeremiah mar 2ndly, 19 Feb 1873 [Ardfert RC par records] to Honora Lawlor [Norah, born 1848 or 1841, Co.Kerry].
She was dau of Bartholomew Lawlor [parish register] or Terence Lawlor [mar cert], farmer, of Ardconnell, N of Ardfert.
See mar cert from here. Says married 20 Feb 1873, but the parish register is more likely to be correct.
See parish records entry LHS and RHS. From here. Also here. See transcript.
Mar wit by John Carmody and Bartholomew Lawlor.
They are living Liscahane at children's baptisms 1875 to 1884.
In the 1885 trial, Jeremiah says he is a farmer at Liscahane, and a tenant of Sir Edward Denny, 4th Baronet.

Jeremiah and his 19 year old son Patrick got involved in a fight in 1885 on the road home to Liscahane from Tralee.
It seems his son Patrick, who had already been involved in a number of fights, dragged his father into one of his disputes.
The Carmodys seriously injured one of the other men. Jeremiah and Patrick were both prosecuted for assault.

He, not his son (who is too young) would be "Jeremiah Carmody" who wit his son John's mar 1887.
"Jeremiah Carmody" sp bapt of Ellen O'Callaghan at Tralee, 1892.
See them listed at Liscahane in 1901 census. He is farmer. Ages of children are inaccurate.
Jeremiah Carmody, of Liscahane, is listed as brother of Nora Carmody at her funeral 1909.
See them listed at Liscahane in 1911 census. He is farmer.
Jeremiah had issue by 2nd wife:

Ellen Carmody,
born 14 October 1875,
bapt 17 October 1875 [Ardfert RC par records], sp Thomas Carmody and Ellen Carmody.
Not at home in 1901 census.
Not at home in 1911 census. Says she is alive.
Hanoria Carmody,
born 19 May 1877, Co.Kerry,
bapt 20 May 1877 [Ardfert RC par records], sp Daniel Lawlor and Margaret Lawlor.
Many name variants. "Honora" at baptism. "Norah" in 1901 census and dau's birth 1910. "Hanoria" at mar 1908 and children's births 1908 and death 1965. "Hannora" in 1911 census. "Nora" at son's birth 1912.
See entry in tree by Fintan Fitzgerald.
At home in 1901 census.
At mar 1908 she is living Liscahane, Ardfert, Co.Kerry.
She mar 27 February 1908, Ardfert RC church, to Timothy Fitzgerald and had issue.
See mar cert from here. Mar wit by John Carmody.
Jeremiah Carmody,
Jerry,
born 25 August 1879, Co.Kerry,
bapt 31 August 1879 [Ardfert RC par records], sp Thomas Driscoll and Mary Driscoll.
At home in 1901 census.
At home in Liscahane in 1911 census, unmarried.
At mar 1912 he is farmer, Liscahane.
He mar 20 Feb 1912 to Hannah Fitzgerald [dau of Edward Fitzgerald, farmer].
They mar at RC church of Churchill, SW of Ardfert (NW of Tralee). See mar cert from here.
At mar she is living at Slieve-na-vadogue, Spa, Co.Kerry (the coast NW of Tralee).
It is possible that he is the Jeremiah Carmody who was a farmer at Crotta, died Feb 1956 in Tralee, and was bur at St.Brendan's church, Ardfert.
Batt Carmody,
Bartholomew,
born 12 December 1881, Co.Kerry,
bapt 14 December 1881 [Ardfert RC par records], sp James Healy and Mary Healy.
At home in 1901 census.
At home in 1911 census, unmarried.
Terence Carmody,
Terry,
born 25 May 1884, Co.Kerry,
bapt 31 May 1884 [Ardfert RC par records], sp Thomas Carmody and Johanna Carmody.
At home in 1901 census.
At home in 1911 census, unmarried.
He wit his brother's mar 1912.

The fight in 1885

Jeremiah Carmody and his 19 year old son Patrick Carmody were involved in a fight on the night of Sat 21 Mar 1885 on the road home to Liscahane from Tralee.
They had both had some drinks in Tralee. They were walking on the road home near Clogherbrien cross (between Liscahane and Tralee) when they encountered three men: Jeremiah Reidy, Michael Brennan and Cornelius Doyle.

Jeremiah Carmody claimed that Reidy tripped up his son Patrick as they passed, and there was an altercation which soon became a fight.
Both sides suffered injuries. Doyle was seriously injured and put in hospital.
Jeremiah Carmody said he did not know what caused the fight. However it was claimed in court that his son Patrick had been in a number of fights and was already in a dispute with Reidy.
According to the three men, the Carmodys' testimony was all lies, and young Patrick Carmody had started the fight, and both Carmodys inflicted the injuries.
See initial article in Kerry Weekly Reporter, March 28, 1885.

Reidy and Brennan were arrested and charged with assault.
Jeremiah and Patrick were also arrested, and also charged with assault. They appeared on 13 Apr 1885 at Tralee Petty Sessions. See entry from here. It was adjourned for a week.
Reidy and Brennan were tried on Mon 8 June 1885 at Tralee Petty Sessions. See long report in Kerry Sentinel, June 9, 1885. Same report in Kerry Weekly Reporter, June 13, 1885. The report says Carmody and his son are also being prosecuted. The case was adjourned.
I cannot find the conclusion of either of the two cases.

Initial report of the fight in 1885.
From Kerry Weekly Reporter, March 28, 1885.