Hallandal
Spelt "Hallandal" in most records.
Possible Scandinavian origin (maybe Norwegian)
Could Hallandal be immigrants from Norway (or somewhere in Scandinavia) to England?
- Family story:
- Hallandal descendant
Janet Noltie
heard that her family was from Scandinavia, maybe Norway.
-
She thought this was her male line (the Noltie line).
But Noltie turns out to be from Germany.
- DNA evidence:
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However, DNA suggests there could be something to the family story.
Ancestry DNA estimates that the DNA for Janet Noltie
is 6 percent Scandinavian, namely
4 percent Norway (including Iceland, S Sweden and N Denmark)
and 2 percent Sweden (including Denmark).
This would make the Scandinavian ancestor
fairly recent.
- So where is the Scandinavian line?
See Janet Noltie's ancestors.
Noltie of Germany is very far back to be giving those numbers, and Germany is not the right place.
- If Janet Noltie has a fairly recent Scandinavian immigrant ancestor,
it is unlikely to be among her rural farming ancestors.
The Hallandal
line in London emerges as the leading suspect.
The only really plausible line she has for 6 percent Scandinavian is Hallandal.
- Janet remembers her mother
Hilda Davis,
not her father Hugh Noltie,
telling the Norway / Scandinavia story.
But if it was about the origin of Noltie, it does not make sense.
Noltie are not her mother's ancestors. How would she know their origin?
If the story was about Hallandal, her mother's ancestors, it would make more sense.
-
Graham Hallandal of this family
also
has unexplained DNA:
Norway 2 percent.
Sweden 2 percent.
- Strange rare surname:
-
Hallandal is a very strange name.
There seem to be basically none in London other than this family.
The numbers would work out at about 6 percent of Janet's DNA.
Maybe this is the origin of the "Norway" story.
-
Note that
Norwegian surnames
include
"Dahl" (or "Dal")
and "Heyerdahl".
-
These surnames also exist, not sure if from Norway: "Hallandahl" and "Hallendahl".
- On the other hand, we do not have any documents linking to Scandinavia.
All we have are family stories, DNA (which could be for a different family)
and the strange rare surname.
We begin with
Francis Hallandal,
stay maker, of
Meard's Court, Soho, London, as at 1805.
He must be father of our
Edwin Hallandal,
stay maker, born in 1807 in
Meard's Court, Soho, London.
But perhaps we would like more proof they are father and son.
They could be uncle and nephew.
Francis Hallandal,
born 1757.
See
entry
in
tree
by
Graham Hallandal.
See
entry
in
tree
by
Kevin Brotherton.
He mar pre-1802 to
Catharine ---- [or Catherine].
He was a
"stay maker" (corset maker).
Lived at
12 Meard's Court, Soho, London.
Children bapt at
St.Anne's, Soho, 1802 to 1810.
He is "Francis Hallender", stay maker, of 12 Meard's Court, Soho,
listed in
[Holden's Triennial Directory for 1805, 1806 and 1807].
Apparently published 1805.
"Francis Hallandal" and "Catharine Hallandal" witnessed son
Henry's mar 1823.
Francis appears to be illiterate.
He died 1834, age 77 yrs.
He was bur 26 July 1834,
St. Pancras parish, London.
He is listed as "stay maker", deceased, at son
Henry's 2nd mar 1842.
Francis and Catharine
had issue:
- Henry Hallandal,
born 9 Feb 1802 [baptism],
born St Anne Soho parish, Westminster, London
[1851 census],
bapt 24 Mar 1802, St.Anne's, Soho, London.
See bapt entry.
From here.
See copy.
He worked as a "stay maker" (family trade).
- Frederick Hallandal,
Frederick Daniel Hallandal, Freddy,
born 27 May 1804, Westminster,
bapt 22 Oct 1804, St.Anne's, Soho, London.
See bapt entry.
From here.
See copy.
From here.
He worked as a "stay maker" (family trade).
- Eleanor Amy Hallandal,
born 3 Dec 1810,
bapt 24 Mar 1811, St.Anne's, Soho, London.
See bapt entry.
From here.
"Francis Hallender", stay maker, of 12 Meard's Court, Soho, London.
From
here in
[Holden's Triennial Directory for 1805, 1806 and 1807].
This is Francis Hallandal,
of
Meard's Court, Soho, London.
We know this is him because:
Our Francis was a stay maker.
"Hallandal" is a very rare name.
There is no "Hallandal" in London in the entire directory.
So
"Francis Hallender" looks like him.
But the real proof is that
Edwin Hallandal was born in 1807 in Meard's Court.
"Francis Hallandal" and "Catharine Hallandal" witnessing their son Henry's marriage in 1823.
See full size.
Edwin Hallandal must be son of Francis Hallandal above.
He is born where Francis lived, in
Meard's Court, Soho.
He is a "stay maker", the same profession.
But perhaps we would like just a bit more proof they are father and son. They could be uncle and nephew.
-
Edwin Hallandal,
Edwin Alfred Hallandal [burial record],
born 1807, according to all census ages and death age.
1851 census says he was born in what looks like "Meads Court, Soho".
This would be Meard's Court, Soho, London.
Have searched for baptism in St.Anne's Soho baptisms
March 1805 to
March 1806 to
March 1807 to March 1808.
Not found.
Have searched other copy
Oct 1806
to Dec 1807.
Not found.
Edwin worked as a "stay maker" (family trade).
Possibly Edwin's siblings:
1851 census says Edwin Hallandal was born in what looks like "Meads Court, Soho".
When combined with the 1805 Directory this must be Meard's Court, Soho.
See
full size.
Meard's Court
(now
Meard St), Soho, London.
[Survey of London]
says the W side was the original Meard's Court, and the E side was Dean's Court.
They were joined together and the whole is now Meard St.
Francis Hallandal
is listed at
12 Meard's Court in
[Holden's Triennial Directory for 1805, 1806 and 1807].
Apparently published 1805.
Edwin Hallandal
was born at Meard's Court in 1807.
[Survey of London]
says no.12 was on N side of the W part.
It
does not survive.
See
modern map.
Meard's Court, Soho.
From
1819 map.
The numbering is confusing.
The W side was the original Meard's Court, and the E side was Dean's Court.
Even then, the W side has two numbering schemes.
And while it has room for a no.12, we do not see a no.12 here.
Note St.Anne's church, Soho, nearby.
Royalty Mansions ("8-14" here)
covers 8, 10, 12 and 14 Meard St, on the N side.
It was built in 1908.
This seems to be where the old no.12 was.
It does not survive.
From 3D view.
See street view.
See
Royalty Mansions
sales brochure, 2016.
From here.
Abandoned idea: Mead's Court
-
It was formerly thought the Hallandal address was
Mead's Court, Old Bond St, a bit to the SW of Soho, but still plausible.
-
The 1851 census seems to say Edwin was born at Mead's Court, Soho.
- But a better source is the 1805 Directory, which more clearly says
Francis Hallandal is at 12 Meard's Court, Soho.
- Also Meard's Court is close to St.Anne's church, Soho, where the Hallandal children were baptised.
Mead's Court is far away from the church, so another church would have been used.
- Also Meard's Court had a no.12.
But Mead's Court only went up to no.5.
- Clearly we should go with the 1805 Directory and say this is Meard's Court.
Other Hallandal of London
Apart from the rare surname, the names "Henry" and "Alfred" suggest relation to our family.
-
Henry Hallandal,
labourer,
had issue:
- Alfred Hallandal.
He is listed at mar 1874 as a "Bill Deliverer", living
Bethnal Green, London.
He
mar 2 Aug 1874, church of St. James the Great,
Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green
(see map),
London
[GRO.UK]
to Mary Brown [née Fogg, a widow, dau of James Fogg, police officer].
She was living Bethnal Green at mar.