Herbert
In particular
Herbert, Earl of Pembroke.
Herbert is listed as "Our common ancestors":
This family does not descend from the Norman FitzHerbert family
Genealogies have existed for centuries claiming to show the Herbert male line above Adam (born est c.1255),
and in particular claiming descent from the Norman
FitzHerbert family.
While that family did exist,
[Clark, 1886]
and others argue
that these Herberts do not descend from them,
and these genealogies
were faked at an early period
to show a Norman origin for the Earls of Pembroke.
Darrell Wolcott
agrees, and
argues that the true origin of Herbert is native Welsh.
We begin as follows.
The surname "Herbert" was not established until the children of
Sir William ap Thomas.
Adam,
born est c.1255.
He
mar
Christian Ddu
[dau of Gwarin Ddu, the "Black Lord" of Llandilo].
They had issue:
Jenkin ap Adam.
He had issue:
Gwyllym ap Jenkin ap Adam,
William.
He
mar Gwenllian Ichon [dau of Howel Ichon].
He died 1377.
They
had issue:
-
Sir Thomas ap Gwyllym,
4th son.
He mar Maud Morley
[dau of Sir John Morley, Knt,
of Llansantffraed Court,
Llansantffraed,
Powys, Wales].
Inherited the Morley estate, Llansantffraed Court, 1400.
He died 1438.
They had issue:
- Sir William ap Thomas.
Arms of the Earl of Pembroke.
Above the
tomb
of the 9th Earl of Pembroke in
Wilton parish church.
Motto: "Ung je serviray" ("I will serve but one master").
Photo 2023.
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larger
and
full size.
References
Sources yet to be consulted
