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Newross, Co.Tipperary

Newross (also called "New Ross" or "Ross"), Kilnarath par, NE of Newport, Co.Tipperary.
Near the Humphrys farm at Doonane.

Tim Ryan farmed at Newross from at least 1814.
William Ryan (probably Tim's brother) had a farm, also in Newross townland, from at least 1814.
Tim Ryan's son Mickey Tim Ryan inherited his father's farm.
Mickey Tim Ryan was evicted from his farm at Newross, apparently 1850.
William Ryan was apparently evicted from his farm at Newross in 1854.

Newport area on p.99 of [Taylor and Skinner, 1777].
N is to the right.
Note White at "New Ross" (NE of Newport, note N is to the right).

Entry for Newross in [Tithe Survey, 1827].
Tim Ryan (with something illegible after his name) holds 76 acres, the largest plot in the townland.
William Ryan holds 52 acres, the 2nd largest plot in the townland.
Both renting from Bolton Waller.
From here.

Entries for Newross on p.73 of [Griffiths Valuation, 1848].
From askaboutireland.ie.
William Ryan is not listed.
Mickey Tim Ryan is a prosperous farmer who holds the following properties:

He occupies plot 15. His house is at 15 a. This is by far the biggest house in the townland. He holds 131 acres. This is the biggest plot of land in the townland.
He holds 2 acres at plot 3, with no house.
He holds 3 acres at plot 6, with no house.
He rents out plots or sub-plots at plots 2, 3, 6, 8, 9 and 15.

All lands in Newross are rented ultimately from Bolton Waller.

Entries for Newross on p.96 and p.97 of [Griffiths Valuation, 1850].
From askaboutireland.ie.
William Ryan is not listed.
Mickey Tim Ryan is a prosperous farmer who holds the following properties:

He occupies plot 15. His house is at 15 a. This is by far the biggest house in the townland. He holds 131 acres. This is the biggest plot of land in the townland.
He holds 2 acres at plot 3, with no house.
He holds 3 acres at plot 6, with no house.

Unfortunately, the map linked to [Griffiths Valuation] at askaboutireland.ie does not match the plot numbers in the text.
The map only has two plots - plots 1 and 2.
We cannot tell where plot 15 is.

Newross on 1829 to 1842 map.
Apparently the Ryan farm was a LHS turn off the road as you go from Ahane crossroads up to Kilnarath church.
Apparently it was the 1st left above, "Site of New Ross House", not the 2nd left.
This would make it the 2nd left turn today. See modern satellite view and street view.

The landlord Bolton Waller (died 1854) listed in pedigree of Waller of Kerry and Limerick, [Burkes Irish, 1976, p.1176].

Things to do

Identify the old Ryan house at Newross. Get proper [Griffiths Valuation] map with plot 15.
See the house. Still there in 1990s. Big house, 2 storeys.

Sources yet to be consulted

Estate papers of Ryan's landlord, Bolton Waller.

Waller of Castletown