Mickey Tim Ryan
- Sources yet to be consulted:
Mickey Tim Ryan
bapt 15 Oct 1820.
inherited the farm at Newross
NE of Newport
His father seems to have died in 1828 to 1835.
"Michael Ryan" sp the bapt of his nephew Tim Foley
"Mick Ryan" wit his sister's mar
"Michael Ryan" sp bapt of his niece Margaret Humphrys
mar 1843 to Bridget Ryan.
dau of Richard and Bridget Ryan,
of Ballyadam, Caherconlish par, Co.Limerick.
These were the Ryan "Chicken" family.
No relation of our Ryans.
There was a story,
I think from
that Bridget Ryan's brothers were looking round, trying to make a match for her.
tried several places, none good enough.
They came to Mickey Tim's,
and were given whiskey in a decanter,
and they thought:
"this is the place".
"Michael Ryan" and
sp the bapt of his nephew Michael Foley in Oct 1843.
Mickey Tim and Bridget were
living Newross at children's baptisms 1844-1848.
supposed to have had sympathies with Young Irelanders of 1848.
"Michael Ryan (Tim)"
is listed in
[Griffiths Valuation, 1848 and 1850]
as leasing 131 acres (with a big house) and other holdings
in Newross townland.
He had the biggest house in the townland.
He had the biggest farm in the townland.
All leasing from the landlord
Evicted from Newross, moves to Ahane (Cully), apparently 1850:
The story is that the Ryans were evicted from
by the landlord Bolton Waller,
for non-payment of 2 years rent, total £400.
They ended up in a poor farm at the Ahane crossroads nearby (a real come-down from Newross)
which was given to them by Waller.
This location is referred to as "Cully" or "Ahane".
The new farm was
only a few hundred yards from the lost family home at Newross.
Mickey Tim and Bridget are listed at
children's baptisms 1850-55
as living at "Ahane".
Mickey Tim's probable uncle,
William Ryan of Newross,
was apparently the last Ryan in Newross,
and was apparently evicted in 1854.
It is thought that after William Ryan of Newross
was evicted 1854, he went to join (his probable nephew) Mickey, already living at Ahane/Cully.
These Ryans got a name for always idling. They didn't do any work to pay the rent.
the nickname Ryan "Cadea".
Apparently "cadea" is "lazy" in old Irish (though I cannot confirm this).
The landlord had a lot of trouble selling Newross after the eviction - met with a lot of resistance.
Mickey Tim listed as
living "Cully" at children's baptisms 1857-1863.
Think they lived Ahane / Cully until their deaths.
Mickey Tim dies, 1891:
died 9 pm, Mon 27 July 1891, age 70 yrs.
Funeral 29 July 1891,
bur Cragg (NW of Newport,
"Ahane" is listed as home of daughter at wedding 1892.
Bridget died Wed 10 May 1893.
Funeral 12 May 1893,
Mickey Tim and Bridget
- Thady Ryan,
bapt "Timothy", 29 Nov 1844 [Newport RC par records],
sp John Ryan, Johanna Ryan.
- Margaret Ryan,
bapt 7th Feb 1848 [Newport RC par records],
sp Laurence Ryan, Johanna Keogh.
- John Ryan,
bapt 16th Aug 1850 [Newport RC par records],
sp John Dwane, Anne Maters,
emigrated and died in America
- Richard Ryan,
place of birth not listed at bapt (but must be Ahane),
bapt 11th Nov 1852 [Newport RC par records],
sp Andy Kennedy, Mary Kennedy,
went to America,
died July/Aug 1893, New York, age 40 yrs,
he was prayed for at mass in Newport on Sun 6th Aug 1893.
- Michael Ryan,
bapt 24th Apr 1855 [Newport RC par records],
sp James Humphrys and
- Bridget Ryan,
born Cully, 15th Aug 1857,
bapt 26th Aug 1857 [Newport RC par records],
sp Benjamin Young, Catherine Brien,
went to Parnell public meetings in 1880s,
living "Ahane" at mar 1892,
mar 16th Feb 1892 [Newport RC par records]
and had issue,
wit by Andrea O'Brien and
- Laurence Ryan,
place of birth not listed at bapt (but must be Cully),
bapt "Laurence", 24th Jan 1860 [Newport RC par records],
sp Jim Ryan, Catherine Burns,
think NOT Lawrence,
mar --- Lysaght [of Doon, Co.Limerick],
emigrated to America,
died in America, 1929, age 69 yrs,
- Laurence Ryan.
- Rita Ryan.
- Catherine Ryan,
Kate, "Kathy", NOT Katherine,
bapt "Catherine", 28th Sept 1863 [Newport RC par records],
sp Bartholomew Ryan, Alice O'Brien.
parents died by 1893.
She went to live with sister Bridget
at Knocksentry, Killeenagarriff par, Co.Limerick.
She must have met her husband through this (he was from Killeenagarriff par).
She is listed as of
"Ahane" at mar 1894.
This most likely refers to her old family farm.
Though there is an Ahane
SW of Knocksentry.
She mar Tue 13 Nov 1894
to James Minihane and had issue.
They mar at Newport RC church.
Mar wit by Tim Minihane and
There may be another daughter:
- Mary Ryan.
Living "Ahane" at mar 1877.
mar 6 Feb 1877
to Patt Waller
[Patrick, poss. Pat].
(She possibly married some distant, dispossessed relation of the man who
evicted her own family.)
They mar at Newport RC church.
Mar wit by Andrew Meara, Hanora McGrath.
- Annie Waller,
bapt Anne, 10 Jan 1884 [Newport RC par records],
sp James Gleeson, Bridget Ryan.
mar Simon Carney.
The new Ryan farm, Castlewaller townland, Kilnarath par, NE of Newport, Co.Tipperary.
"Cully" is the old name for Castlewaller townland.
The farm location is also called "Ahane" since it is next to the Ahane crossroads.
Note there is a place called "Culley Rock" or "Culley Rocks"
some distance away
inside Castlewaller townland
(see old map
Ahane crossroads on
1829 to 1842 map
Note Ahane townland.
Newross townland (and old Ryan farm) is to N.
The huge Castlewaller townland is to E.
The new Ryan farm was apparently at the NE side of the crossroads (around the red cross).
This is in Castlewaller townland.
So it was called "Cully" (the old name for Castlewaller townland)
or "Ahane" (at the crossroads).