Humphrys genealogy

Genealogy research by Mark Humphrys.

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Tim Ryan, of Newross

Baptism of Margaret Ryan, 19 Sept 1819 [Newport RC par records].

Tim Ryan,
His family was called the Ryan "Tim" family.
He was a farmer in Newross, Kilnarath par, NE of Newport, Co.Tipperary.

He mar pre-1814 to Margaret Hourigan.
Tim and Margaret were in Newross since at least 1814, all children born Newross, bapt Catholic in [Newport RC par records].
He is listed as farmer, Newross, at childrens' bapts 1814 to 1823.
"Tim Ryan" and "Margaret Hourigan" sp the bapt of (probably Tim's nephew) Denis Ryan in 1816. Tim must be him. Margaret looks like her, except why use maiden name?
"Timothy Ryan" wit the mar of Catherine Hourigan 1818.
"Tim Ryan" is listed at Newross in [Tithe Survey, 1827]. He holds 76 acres, the largest plot in the townland.
"Margaret Ryan" sp bapt of (would be her nephew) Edmond Hourigan in Sept 1827.
Tim is listed at Newross at dau's bapt 1828.
He probably died before 1835.
[Census, 1835] shows only "William Ryan (Timothy)" in Newross (see William Ryan of Newross). Note Tim's son would be age only 15.
Tim must have died before 1848.
[Griffiths Valuation, 1848] shows his son Mickey Tim Ryan holding Newross.
Tim and Margaret had issue:

  1. Catherine Ryan,
    born Newross,
    bapt 1 Nov 1814 [Newport RC par records], sp Michael Ryan and Catherine Hourigan.
    She mar 3 July 1832 [her age 17] to Michael Foley [of Caherconlish, Co.Limerick].
    They mar at Newport RC church. Mar wit by Patrick Ryan and Rev. M. O'Shaughnessy and Phil Ryan.

  2. Honora Ryan,
    born Newross,
    bapt "Honor", 15 Aug 1816 [Newport RC par records], sp Pat Hourigan and Biddy Ryan.
    She is "Honora" on the gravestone she erected to her husband, though "Hanora" on the gravestone her son erected for her.
    NOT Mag, NOT Margaret.
    She mar 3 Feb 1835 [her age 18] to James Foley [of Ballynahinch, Co.Tipperary] and had issue.
    They mar at Newport RC church. Mar wit by Patrick Ryan and William Ryan and Michael Ryan.

  3. Biddy Ryan,
    Bridget, born Newross,
    Fred Faulkner listed her as Jeannette,
    bapt 11 May 1818 [Newport RC par records], sp Pat Ryan and Judy Hourigan.
    "Bridget Ryan" sp the bapt of her nephew Tim Foley 1836.
    She mar 27 Feb 1838 to Samuel Young [Sam, of Ballynahinch, Co.Tipperary].
    Fred Faulkner said he was a Protestant, and thought he was from the Silvermines, Co.Tipperary.
    They mar at Newport RC church. Mar wit by Ben Young and Timothy Ryan and Michael Ryan.

  4. Margaret Ryan,
    born Newross, Co.Tipperary,
    bapt Margaret, 19 Sept 1819 [Newport RC par records] (and here), sp Mat Coffey and (left blank) Hourigan.
    She was apparently "Margaret Mary". (Apparently her grand-dau Sighle Humphreys was named "Margaret Mary" after her.)
    Note that the eldest grand-dau in the Rath branch was bapt "Margaret Mary".
    Fred Faulkner says the Ryans referred to her as "Maria", or even "Mary" or "Molly". (Note her mother was Margaret, and there was no daughter Mary.)
    However the Humphrys referred to her as "Margaret", and all written records say "Margaret".
    She is listed as "Margaret Ryan, Newross" at mar.
    She mar 16 Feb 1841 to James Humphrys and had issue.
    They mar at [Newport RC church]. Mar wit by Anthony Humphrys, Mick Ryan, John Humphrys.

  5. Mickey Tim Ryan,
    Mick, born Newross,
    bapt Michael, 15 Oct 1820 [Newport RC par records], sp John Hourigan and Kitty Coffey.
    He inherited the farm at Newross.

  6. Judy Ryan,
    born Newross,
    bapt 14 Jan 1822 [Newport RC par records], sp William Ryan and Mary Hourigan.

  7. Joanna Ryan,
    born Newross,
    bapt 2 Oct 1823 [Newport RC par records], sp Tim Ryan and Sara Ryan.
    She is probably "Hannah Ryan" who sp the bapt of her niece Mary Foley 1841.
    She must be Joanna Ryan who sp bapt of John Humphrys 1843.
    She is probably "Johanna Ryan" who sp bapt of her nephew Thady Ryan 1844.

  8. Anne Ryan,
    think NOT Ann, born Newross,
    bapt 5 June 1828 [Newport RC par records], sp Denis Ryan and Catherine Ryan.
    "Anne Ryan" sp the bapt of her nephew John Foley 1845.
    "Anne Ryan" sp bapt of her niece Catherine Humphrys 1847.
    "Anne Ryan" sp the bapt of her niece Catherine Foley 1849.
    She mar --- Lloyd.

When [Fred Faulkner] incorrectly listed the above as children of William Ryan, he also listed two further daughters:

  1. Elizabeth Ryan. She mar --- Kilfeather.

  2. Antoinette Ryan.


Newross on 1829 to 1842 map.
Ahane townland to S.
Castlewaller townland to E.


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