Lyons
The notes by Patricia Lavelle
about her Lyons ancestry
are a bit inaccurate:
However, we find that someone of Maria Agnes Lyons' generation,
Mary Ellen Lyons,
married in 1874 to Dr. Francis Falvey of Tralee.
And there are connections between the families:
- "Mary Ellen Lyons" (not yet married) sponsored the baptism of our Maria Agnes' daughter
Agnes Cashel
in 1870.
-
"Julia Lyons" (would be Mary Ellen's sister or mother)
sponsored the baptism of our Maria Agnes' son
Willie Cashel in 1875.
- "Sarah Lyons"
(may be Mary Ellen's sister)
sponsored the baptism of our Maria Agnes' daughter
Alice Cashel in 1878.
-
In 1904, Dr. Francis Falvey died,
and Maria Agnes' widowed husband
Blennerhassett Cashel
is listed as one of the chief mourners at the funeral
(Maria Agnes had died in 1896).
Conclusion: Maria Agnes Lyons and Mary Ellen Lyons
are close relations:
- Mary Ellen Lyons is where the Falvey connection comes in, rather than being our ancestors.
It was Mary Ellen that Maria Agnes went to visit in Tralee.
-
Mary Ellen Lyons' father is Michael Lyons, son of Laurence Lyons.
Maria Agnes Lyons' father is John Lyons.
So they are not sisters.
Probably they are 1st cousins.
(i.e. Michael and John are probably brothers).
-
Michael Lyons, son of Laurence Lyons, in fact did have a brother John, who is probably identical with our John.
The somewhat confused reference to the Falveys of Tralee by
Patricia Lavelle.
Proof that Mary Ellen Lyons (wife of Dr. Francis Falvey)
is connected to our family:
Chief mourners at the funeral of Dr. Francis Falvey in 1904 include
Blennerhassett Cashel.
Falvey's wife and Cashel's wife must be 1st cousins.
Laurence Lyons,
born 1782.
He
lived near
Millstreet,
Co.Cork.
He is possibly Laurence Lyons listed in
[Griffiths Valuation, 1852]
at
Rathcool, Dromtarriff par, Co.Cork
(near Millstreet).
He
died 10 Nov 1870, age 88 yrs [grave].
Can't find death in
[GROI].
He was
bur in
Lyons grave, Millstreet, Co.Cork.
He
had issue:
- John Lyons.
He and his brother Michael erected father's grave 1870.
Probably identical with our John Lyons.
-
Michael Lyons,
Michael Laurence Lyons, born 1825 or 1826 (by age at death),
Falvey tree thought born 1821,
born near Millstreet, Co.Cork
[obituary].
Lived in Mallow.
Later a draper and T.C. in Tralee.
He and his brother John erected father's grave 1870.
He is father of Mary Ellen Lyons who married Dr. Francis Falvey of Tralee.
He was
bur at Millstreet, Co.Cork.
There is a Laurence Lyons listed in
[Griffiths Valuation, 1852]
at
Rathcool, Dromtarriff par, Co.Cork
(near Millstreet,
see
modern map).
He is renting plot 15 from Sir George Colthurst.
39 acres and a house.
This might be our Laurence.
From
askaboutireland.ie.
Grave of Laurence Lyons (ivy-covered obelisk), Millstreet, Co.Cork.
Photo 2020.
See full size.
Our John Lyons is probably identical with
John Lyons, son of Laurence Lyons
above.
There is a borderline DNA match (8 cM)
between a descendant of John Lyons above
and a descendant of the following Francis Lyons of Millstreet.
We are not sure if the two are related through this line.
It could be through another line.
We did find this by deliberately searching DNA hits for Lyons of Co.Cork.
And this Francis Lyons is much poorer and lower status than the other Lyons.
And the DNA match is only borderline.
- Francis Lyons,
born 1806 [by age on death cert, but suspect probably younger].
Labourer,
of Millstreet, Co.Cork.
Apparently illiterate.
Children born 1853 to 1866.
He was apparently jailed for assault in 1882.
His widow died in the Workhouse.
- Rathcool
is in Dromtarriff civil par
and Dromtarriff RC par (records from 1832).
- Millstreet
is in Drishane civil par
and Millstreet RC par (records from 1853).
- Mallow
is in Mallow civil par
and Mallow RC par (records from 1757).
- Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society
