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James Franklin Fuller

James Franklin Fuller.
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Formerly here in Stokes family photos by Teresa Stokes.

James Franklin Fuller,
architect and genealogist,
born 16 Aug 1835, near Sneem, Co.Kerry.
See wikipedia.
He became an architect, FRIAI, FRIBA.

He mar 28 Aug 1860, St.John's, Hampstead, London,
to Helen Guivier [Hyacinthe Palmire Helene Guivier, French].
She was born 30 Dec 1838, Rue Capron, Paris (see map).
She was dau of Jean Prosper Guivier, a noted musician, son of Etienne Simon Guivier, a French soldier and POW on the Russian front.
The family name survives today in J P Guivier violin dealers, London.
See The legend about Helen Guivier's origin.

JFF had from around 1870 on an office at 179 Great Brunswick St, Dublin.
In [Thom's] 1872 to 1898 he is listed as living 5 Sydenham Rd, Dundrum, Co.Dublin (see street view).
Inherited Glashnacree House, Co.Kerry, after father's death 1886.
He was a historian and genealogist, FSA, MRIA, member of [CHAS].
His architectural works include:

He co-designed Kylemore Abbey, Connemara (see street view).
He enlarged the O'Hara seat, Annaghmore, Co.Sligo, 1871.
He re-built the seat of the Barons Ventry, Burnham House, Co.Kerry, 1874.
He remodelled the Blennerhassett seat, Ballyseedy, Co.Kerry, 1880.
He co-designed Farmleigh, Phoenix Park, Dublin.
He re-worked Iveagh House, St.Stephen's Green, Dublin (see street view).

See genealogy controversy with Mary Agnes Hickson in Kerry Evening Post 1893.
He bought "Lissatier", Eglinton Road, Dublin, in 1898. Lived there until his death in 1924.
He wrote an account of the Trial of Rowan Cashell in 1901-04.
He lived to see great-grandchildren. He died 8th Dec 1924, age 89 yrs,
bur Mount Jerome Cemetery, Dublin.
See biographies in DIA and [O'Brien and Guinness, 1994].
Helen died 1925.
James Franklin Fuller and Helen had issue:

May Fuller,
born 17 July 1861.
She mar 1889 to Sir Gabriel Stokes [born 1849] and had issue.
They mar at [Kilcrohane CoI church].
Harnett Fuller,
born 1866.
He mar 1894 to Augusta Hurly.
He abandoned his wife and child about 1899.
Augusta and her son are listed in 1901 census with her brother John Hurly at the Hurly home, Fenit House, on the coast W of Tralee, Co.Kerry.
Harnett died 1919.
Augusta's brother John Hurly died unmarried 1929.
Augusta inherited Fenit House. She lived there.
She died 1946.
Harnett and Augusta had issue:
1. Franklin Fuller,
  Franklin Bland Fuller, born 2 Nov 1897.
  He mar 1937 to Mary Bayley, no issue.
  They lived with his mother at Fenit House.
  He drowned in 1943.
  His mother died 1946.
  Mary lived at Fenit House for many years, left about 1980.
  She died Dec 1990.
Evelyn Melicent Fuller,
did not marry,
lived "Lissatier", Eglinton Road, Dublin after father's death,
she died there in 1958.

James Franklin Fuller.
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From here in Stokes family photos by Teresa Stokes. Used with permission.

Kylemore Abbey, Connemara.
Photo 2006. See full size. From Wikimedia Commons.

5 Sydenham Rd, Dundrum, Co.Dublin.
Photo 2013 or 2014 from Teresa Stokes. See full size.
See street view.

Grave of James Franklin Fuller, Mount Jerome Cemetery, Dublin.
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From Teresa Stokes.

"Lissatier", Eglinton Road, Dublin

Home of James Franklin Fuller from 1898.
He is listed at "Lissatier", Eglinton Road (no number) in [Thom's, 1901].
He is listed at "Lissatier", 51 Eglinton Road, in [Thom's, 1914] and [Thom's, 1923].
He died 1924.
His daughter Evelyn Melicent Fuller continued to live there.
Re-numbered as 83 Eglinton Road in 1934.
"Miss E.M. Fuller" is listed at "Lissatier", 83 Eglinton Road, in [Thom's, 1935].
Evelyn died there in 1958. It was then sold.
Was recently a guest house called "Eglinton Manor".
Survives today as 83 Eglinton Road.

Confirming the re-numbering:
[Thom's, 1914] shows that Fuller's house, "Lissatier", no.51, was beside "Glencar", no.49.

[Thom's, 1931] shows Glencar at no.49, Fuller at Lissatier at no.51.
Eglinton Road was re-numbered in 1934.
[Thom's, 1935] shows Glencar at no.81, Fuller at Lissatier at no.83.

83 Eglinton Road (Fuller's house, formerly "Lissatier", formerly no.51).
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See street view.
See 2014 photo by Bob Frewen.

The legend about Helen Guivier's origin

Amazingly, James Franklin Fuller's information on his own wife, Helen Guivier, is not reliable:

JFF lists her in [Fuller, 1868] as "Helen, grand-daughter of Baron Prosperé Guivier (of Corsica), who fell in the retreat from Moscow".
JFF lists her in [Fuller, 1877] as "Helen H. Guivier, dau. of John Prospere Guivier, and grand-daughter of Baron Prospere Guivier of Corsica, one of Napoleon's Generals".
JFF lists her in [Fuller, 1880] as "Helen daughter of John Prospere Guivier and granddaughter of Baron Prospere Guivier of Corsica (one of Napoleon's Generals who fell in the retreat from Moscow)".
She is listed in [Foster's Royal Descents, vol.2, 1884] as "Helen H. Guivier, dau. of John Prospère Guivier, and granddaughter of Baron Prospère Guivier of Corsica, one of Napoleon's generals".
She is listed in [Burkes Colonial Gentry, vol.2, 1895] as "Helen, daughter of John Prospere Guivion, and grand-daughter of Marshal ("St. Cyr") Guivion, one of Napoleon's Generals". Note the change of surname to "Guivion". This is because JFF has discovered there was a general of (close to) that name, but not one called Guivier. The claim in fact is that she is grand-dau of Napoleon's general, Laurent Gouvion, 1st Marquis of Gouvion-Saint-Cyr (born 1764).
She is listed in [Crisp, 1904] as "Hyacinthe Helen, dau. of Prospére Guivion, and grand-dau. of Marshall Guivion (St. Cyr), one of Napoleon's Generals".
JFF lists her in [Fuller, 1910] as "Helen H. Guivion, granddaughter of Marshall Guivion of Napoleon's Army".
She is listed in [Burkes Irish, 1912] as "Helen, dau. of John Prospére Guivion, and grand-dau. of Marshal (St. Cyr) Guivion, one of Napoleon's Generals".

[Thomson, 2009] shows in great detail that this story is untrue, and there is no connection to any "Guivion" or "Gouvion". He lays out in detail Helen Guivier's true origin. He tracks the career of her father Jean Prosper Guivier and her grandfather Etienne Simon Guivier.
This research is summarised in [Frewen, 2014].

References

"James Franklin Fuller, Architect & Genealogist" by Bob Frewen, 2014.
"Jean Prosper Guivier: His Life and Family" by Stephen Thomson, 2009.
"James Franklin Fuller", by Adrian Stokes.

Sources yet to be consulted

FULLER, JAMES FRANKLIN in [DIB]

Works by James Franklin Fuller

Works read

Gentleman's Magazine, 1866.
- May 1866, p.699. Shows that at this point all he knows of Capt. Goddard is that he was said to be of Queen's Co.
- Sept 1866, pp.355-357.
- Oct 1866, pp.495-496.
[MGH] 1st series, vol. 1 (1868)
- See p.80 and pp.165-166 and p.214 and p.215.
- See p.288. Has now found Capt. Goddard's will but does not know his regiment or origin.
- See p.323 and p.324. Mentions the Harnett will.
[MGH] 2nd series, vol.1 (1874)
- Fuller of England on pp.9-10.
- Fuller of England on pp.326-329.
[MGH] 1st series, vol.2 (1876)
- Fuller on p.130.
- Fuller on p.203.
[MGH] 2nd series, vol.2 (1877)
- Royal Descents of Fuller, pp.56-60. See rotated p.1 and p.2 and p.3 and p.4 and p.5.
The Family of Fuller, James Franklin Fuller, privately printed, Dublin, 1880.
- This is a book of Royal descents.
- A number of his descents do not hold since they rely on 3rd Baron Howth being son of Joan Beaufort.
[MGH] 4th Series, vol.2 (1908)
- Bland pedigree, pp.279-288.
[MGH] 4th Series, vol.3 (1910)
- Pedigree of Fuller, p.281 to 287 or 288. The start of this is completely inaccurate. Further down, he has correctly found Capt. Goddard's regiment. And he now correctly says Capt. Goddard is son of Rev. Goddard.
[JCHAS], Ser. 2, Vol. XVI, 1910, [NLI] Ir 794105 c 1.
- "Fuller pedigree", pp. 88-89 and foldout and p. 194.
[MGH] 4th Series, vol.4 (1910-11)
- De ffulwer or ffuller family of England, pp.30-35 and 66-70.
[MGH] 4th Series, vol.5 (1912-13)
- Fuller of Kildare and King's County, pp.130-135.
- Bland pedigree, pp.227-233.
- Fuller correction to earlier tree, p.233.
- "A curious genealogical medley", pp.244-247, [RIA] AP 1913/1 (shelved with Large Format APs). Was supposed to be [NLI] GO 664 but that is not it.
- Extracts from diary of Abraham Fuller, pp.314-317, [RIA] MR/26/Q/19a.
- Fuller notes, p.366, [RIA] MR/26/Q/19a.
Omniana: The autobiography of an Irish Octogenarian
- 1916 edn, [NLI] Ir 92 f 29.
- 1920 edn (New and Enlarged), [RIA] RR/64/F/4. A family tree shows the claimed 32 ancestral lines of JFF.

Works yet to be consulted

Irish Builder and Engineer, Jubilee Number, 1909. [NLI]. Attic (Ir 6905 i 42)
- "Reminiscences of Fifty Years", J.F. Fuller.
[MGH] 4th Series, vol.3 (1910)
- Fuller on p.131.
Have done first pass of Fuller papers in the [NLI].
There was a reference to the "Fuller Collection" in the [RIA].
- Have searched for Fuller. Can find many donations of books, but no personal manuscripts.
- Basil O'Connell might have gotten Fuller's papers.